The book was sent to me by a fine Christian Pastor
in order to better explain Calvinism to me
after he read my letter
to the editor #49
"What If I've Been Wrong?"
page numbers in the book “The Five Points of
Calvinism”,
followed by “quotes from Edwin H. Palmer”,
followed by notes of Kenny Wolf
25:C:1 “Divine
election means that God chooses some to go to heaven.. Others are
passed by and they will go to hell.”
29.8 “...implying
that He passed over others.”
33.95 “...Paul
does, showing that he is teaching unconditional election.”
34.4 “He is free
to love whom He wants and to pass others by, not because of any good or
bad in man, but for His own good reasons.”
35.1 “...it should
be noted that the Calvinist keeps both God’s sovereignty and man’s responsibility,
even though he cannot rationally reconcile the two.” How
many good human fathers would put one of their sons in a situation where
he has no choice but to fail and then holds them totally responsible for
their failed outcome?
35.6 “...since
he (the Arminian) has exactly the same problem that the Calvinist has;
namely, how to reconcile human responsibility with the absolute certainty
of all events." The issue of free will
has not yet been addressed in its fullest sense, but rather, man’s responsibility.
Those who truly harmonize free will with God’s sovereignty see the issue
of man’s responsibility as a strawman. It seems to be a multi-layered
issue to keep the core debate--”Does man have free will?”--under wraps.
35:B “Contrary
to what most people think, the Calvinist teaches that man is free--one
hundred percent free--free to do exactly what he wants. God does
not coerce a single one against his will. And Just because man is
free, man is a slave. Just because man does what he wants to do,
man has no free will (which is different from saying that he is free)...”
Those
equipped with logic, must at this point check their logic at the door.
Unless one agrees that to be free means to be a slave, one cannot remain
a participant in the inquiry concerning the possibility of man having genuine
free will as a given attribute from his creator. And, of course,
the trick is that the bondage of sin does make one a slave to sin and the
flesh until the indwelling of the Holy Spirit at the point of positional
salvation. But all scripture must be kept in careful context.
36.5 “Incidentally,
the Christian has no free will either. He may technically have the
external option to choose or reject Christ, but basically he does not.
Christ will not let him reject Him.” Mr.
Palmer had just stated on the previous page that “God does not coerce a
single one against his will.” But then Mr. Palmer does not even believe
that God Himself has free will.” (see note at bottom of page 36).
When I was very young in the Lord, hearing such rational statements troubled
me greatly. I felt compelled to conclude that Christ was programmed
to go to the cross and that He did not in fact go of His own volition.
This line of thinking removes the beauty of the cross in the hearts of
some Christians. I was once greatly troubled by such reasoning.
41.8 “He intended
to save all, but only some will be saved. Therefore, some of His
blood was wasted: it was spilled.” Limited
atonement is of course known as the “weak point” of the TULIP in the minds
of many non-Calvinists. The idea that the offer of salvation is a
mere show to many creatures is offensive to unlimited redemptionists.
This is the point at which Calvinist Lewis Sperry Chafer and most of Dallas
Theological Seminary got off. But I do strongly agree with Mr. Palmer
that the 5 points must hang together or fall together. There are
no 1/2 point to 4 point positions to choose from on the Calvinist spectrum.
There is either 5 points or no points! Men like Loraine Boettner
and A.W. Pink were true to their system of reasoning on this issue.
44 “It was just
because God so loved the world of elect sinners that He sent His only begotten
Son...” Is it any wonder that we have
so many denominations of the Christian faith along with so many deceptive
cults?
51 (last two paragraphs) A
few years ago, I closed my Bible and resigned myself to the fact that I
cannot understand God and His ways. In the last line on page 51,
Mr. Palmer states quite clearly that one with a logical mind must yield
up his logic and never expect God to say to him “Come, let us reason together”,
because man could never reason with God or understand the reasoning of
God. I personally got so close to Calvinism, that I have not fully
reconciled the JUSTICE OF GOD with the SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD. For my
puny logical mind reasons that all coercive sovereigns of this world have
all ruled over their kingdoms with injustice. I logically associate
coercion with injustice.
58.25 “This does
not mean that he (man) has free will...” I
have met some who truly believe this, but I have never met one who truly
lives it. The awkward imposition of having to ask someone, “I wonder
if God has predestined that you should accept the offer of an ice tea from
me.” We all either believe or pretend to believe that another can
make such a choice by asking, “May I get you an ice tea drink?” Watching
someone try to live some of these doctrines to the letter could get pretty
hilarious to the observer.
59 Augustine
is introduced to the discussion. “...antithesis
of Calvinism, or better still, of Augustinianism... Augustinianism,
or Calvinism...”
We learn that Calvinism is
actually Augustinianism revived. We learn on this page that Semi-Pelagianism=Arminianism.
60.8 “They (5
points of Calvinism) all hang or fall together.” As
I said earlier, to this I fully agree.
64.5 “At times
God sends adversity to people by giving them poverty, disgrace, cancer,
or loneliness.” I’m not sure what to
make of this statement by Mr. Palmer, because I do not know by his use
of the word “people” if he means elect sinners of the world or all sinners
of the world?
65.5 (fourth full paragraph)
“Four centuries later an African, born of a Christian mother and a pagan
father, tried to find peace... Peace came over Augustine’s soul..."
Mr.
Palmer gives those of us who might be in the dark about a truth that Calvinists
understand. That truth is that Calvinism is really Augustinianism
presented anew by John Calvin. Benjamin B. Warfield can write a 507
page book titled “Calvin and Augustine” with enough material to make all
of the connections between the two Christians.
66 “A final word
of caution is necessary...no one may ever fall into the rationalistic trap
of saying that he has nothing to do..that he must simply wait for the Spirit
to move him, and there is nothing that he can do to be saved.” See
my notes on page 58.25. Mr. Palmer seems to be saying, “Hey, listen,
it is O.K. to believe this way, but we must all go through the motions
of acting as though we have something which we must do,...only pretending
that we have some volitional part to play!”
72.9 “Anybody
reading these lines may have, right now, without waiting a moment, eternal
life.” Does Mr. Palmer really mean “anybody”
period, or does he mean by saying this that anybody who is an elect sinner
reading these lines... It would seem that without our logic intact,
only Mr. Palmer can answer such a discerning question!
76 through 79 Once
saved, always saved. I believe in the doctrine of the eternal security
of the believer. But since I cannot hold to less than 5 points, then
the doctrine of eternal security and the perseverance of the saints (or
the 5th point of the TULIP) must not really mean the same thing.
Can I come to any other conclusion? ...logically or otherwise?
81 Five
chapters (5 points) are the sovereignty of God.
83 (last paragraph) through 84.5 Mr.
Palmer asks the rhetorical question for his readers, “For, where is God’s
holiness?” I would have preferred the question, “For, where is God’s
justice?” (But Mr. Palmer is framing the debate.) Next three
paragraphs get to the heart to the objections of non-Calvinists (or non-Augustinians).
84.5 though 86.3 Mr.
Palmer places his Calvinism comfortably right smack dab in the middle between
two extremes: Arminianism and Hyper-Calvinism. Arminianism
denying God’s sovereignty and Hyper-Calvinism denying man’s responsibility.
Someone like me who harmonizes God’s sovereignty with man’s volition. cannot
be placed on his limited (definite or particular) spectrum.
85 Note
at bottom informs the readers that, “It should
be emphasized that the contradiction is only apparent and not real.
Man cannot harmonize the two apparently contradictory positions, but God
can.” My note is that Mr. Palmer is
not stating the second element of the contradiction as man’s volition,
but, rather, man’s responsibility. Being a good father, he would
make one of his sons responsible for something the boy had no choice in
partaking in.
88.7 “In
other words, for Paul, election, instead of killing initiative, was a stimulus
to good actions.” Unfortunately, election
as presented by some is a killer of initiative. Note that Charles
H. Spurgeon was so successful as a soul winner because he played down his
Calvinism. (At least, that is the opinion of many non-Calvinist Christians).
90.2 “Remember
that this energy and work were produced by the man (John Calvin) whose
name more than anyone else’s in all history is associated with predestination.”
88 A. Calvin
to 91.2 This,
in my opinion, is the greatest passage in Mr. Palmer’s informative book.
One cannot read this section without feeling a great appreciation in one’s
heart for the man John Calvin himself. He was truly one of the most
gracious men and absolutely (in human terms) devoted men to the Lord’s
work who ever walked the earth. Another Calvinist, John Nelson Darby,
had a similar life as far as serving the Lord, come what may with health,
weather, etc.
95 Definition:
“...He passes others by, and justly condemns them for their own sin--all
to His own glory.”
95 bottom.
“12. Ignorance is wisdom.” Like
the earlier “freedom is slavery”; these phrases sound like something out
of George Orwell’s 1984 novel. Even the Calvinist libertarian Gary
North out of Tyler, Texas would have a hard time uttering these phrases.
Like his father-in-law, R.J. Rushdoony, Dr. North is a scholar of the first
class in synthesizing economics, politics, and Christianity. But
I have read enough to know that not all Calvinists cross all the same T’s
or dot all the same I’s. But then neither do all non-Calvinists.
102 (second full paragraph)
No more talk of free agency of man. Human responsibility is the strawman.
With free will, man is understandably responsible, but that would be logical
and make sense.
104 (top third) This
is the two part action of reprobation which I accurately described in my
letter
to the editor #49. . . titled "What If I’ve Been Wrong?" (
last four paragraphs).
109.75
“But there is nothing wrong with using reason and logic if we do it properly.”
Would
doing it properly be, by chance, agreeing with all of Mr. Palmer’s postulates
and interpretations?
124 (second line)
“...of His own will, freely...” Does
of His own will, freely mean the same as of His own free will? If
so, then what are we to do with Mr. Palmer’s note at the bottom of page
36, telling us that “Neither does God have
free will”. I always get very confused
when I examine the theological system of Augustinianism.
128 Chapter IX:II
“Man, in his state of innocency, had freedom and power to will..." (sounds
like man may have had freedom to will, but Mr. Palmer says that God does
not have free will?).
Mr. Palmer is apparently very sincere in his
writing. He believes what he believes, and nobody is going to change
his mind. Likewise, there are some minds which he will never change.
That is the reality which God in His infinite wisdom decreed for us to
experience. Our sovereign God and Lord and Savior Christ Jesus has
graciously allowed us to examine His word and arrive at slightly different
conclusions on minor points of doctrine, but the dangerous effects of coming
to different positions on the major points of doctrine or the fundamentals
of the faith will not keep us from His just and correcting hand for long.
Kenneth J. Wolf
January 5, 1996
"What
If I’ve Been Wrong?"
letter
to the editor #49
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